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BEST THREADS ONLINE
  •  Vent line alternative routing
    Darwin Barrie is building again. (VAF)
  •  RV-12 at Arlington
    It's interesting to see the questions people are asking. (VAF)

  • Homebrew O2 system
    RV-10 builders off their tips (RV-10 List)
  • Two-battery configuration
    Discussion: Unless you're heavy IFR, why? (RV YGroup)
  • Fiberglass tips
    Do you need to put extra layers inside the closed-up end? Yes. (Rivetbangers)
  •  Review of Flightline Interior basic package
    Big surprise. He likes it. (VAF)
  •  Pulled rivet strength
    RV-12 builder concerned about the mandrel's role. (VAF)
  •  I'm screwed
    Chad Jensen was thinking Sika, but went with the "old" canopy method instead. (Rivetbangers)
  •  Plastic or aluminum?
    A discussion of the after-market vents for RVs (VAF)
  •  Garage size for RV-9A
    Sure you can build an RV in a garage, up to a point. (VAF)
  • Tools you'd never buy used
    Of if it was no-good used, was it any good new? (VAF)

  •  Stringing conduit
    What size hole? And a bit more. (Rivetbangers)
  • Power to handhelds
    What's the smallest connector that will mount in a panel and deliver a ground and 12 volt pos.? (AeroElectric)
  •  Landing and taxi technique
    The RV way... or ways. (VAF)
  •  Slick Mags
    More discussion of the SB. (RV List)
  •  RV-8 Osh meetup
    Kevin Horton organizing a Tues/Thursday rendezvous (VAF)


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    Rebuilding a damaged RV
    It's cool that Van's official newsletter -- RVator -- is available online for free now, but there's no effective notification system for knowing it's there. Thus, this message.
    The theme of this issue -- #3 in 2008 -- is rebuilding a damaged RV. Two articles -- one by Dana Overall whose RV was chewed up recently by an errant airplane on a ramp and the other by Scott McDaniels, who bought an RV that needed rebuilding -- provide a fascinating look at this side of RV building, the side most folks don't talk about.

    However, be aware that Van's is not providing technical advice on rebuilding. "We don’t have
    the time or resources to analyze each question, determine if there’s a problem and design a repair
    scheme if there is," Ken Scott reports."Since we cannot usefully deal with individual problems in finished or damaged airplanes, our best advice is to return the airplane to the configuration shown on the plans. If this is not practical, make a
    repair that an A&P can sign off as meeting the requirements of the 'bible', AC43-13. This isn’t recalcitrance on our part – it’s just the facts of life in the field of individual airplanes built over many years by amateur builders." (See the entire issue)
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    Crash kills RV-3 pilot in Ottawa
    Bruce MacKinnonThe RV-3 crashed while Bruce MacKinnon was doing touch-and-gos . According to witnesses, when the plane left the ground it stalled and crashed, said Const. George Silvestri. MacKinnon's first flight in the RV-3 was July 1, 2006. Medical issues were quickly ruled out in the crash. Flying was his life. He lived for it," said his wife Sylvie Lalonde.(Ottawa Citizen)
    Related stories:
    Ottawa pilot lived for his plane; and died in it. (Globe and Mail)
    Richard Jahns killed in New Jersey RV-7 crash
    The Coaster: NJ investigation wraps up
    RV flips on landing in Illinois (VAF thread)
    RVer finds downed plane (RV-10 List)

    James Clark: Building and flying with friends
    James ClarkThe South Carolina RV-6 pilot graduated from MIT with degrees in electrical engineering, computer science, marketing, and finance. It's easy to see why for some time flying took a back seat to his education. But even throughout, he had his eyes on the sky. (EAA Sports Pilot)

    Low-end SVS rising in the ranks
    Experimental aircraft builders and owners of all Lancair single-engine aircraft are buying Chelton systems, as are owners of RV kits, Velocity, Glassair, and others. The latest customers can buy what Chelton promotes as "the first and only GPS, Airdata and attitude heading reference system optimized for reliability." (FlightGlobal.com)
    Related link:
    SVT for G900X (Kitplanes blog)

    The RV-12 Report
    Working on the RV-12Dave and Lois Martin’s RV-12 has been undergoing serious work on the wing and flapperon kit in an Oregon workshop.Sometimes there are up to five builders working, and many people came early and left late. On several occasions, two pull-rivet teams were working simultaneously. (More from EAA 292)

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    CALENDAR

    OR: Van's homecoming 2008
    August 15-17. Van's has now posted a registration form for the event. hosted by EAA Chapter 292 in Independence, OR. Banquet tickets require separate purchase. (More)

    Early request (these are usually ignored but I'll ask anyway): Would anyone care to write an report and email pictures if I hold the Hotline for a day or two?

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    LETTERS FROM FLYOVER COUNTRY

    WHEN PASSION DIES
    Empty hangarsMost of the hangar doors on my row at South St. Paul Airport are usually closed. I think I know why. I think there aren't enough homebuilt airplanes inside those hangars. I think homebuilders love their planes and flying more. (More)



    ACCIDENT REPORTS

    IL: Jereseyville. Tues. 7/8. RV-6A flipped on landing. No injuries (Data | Registration)

    TX: Valera. Sat 7/6. RV-8 crashed into parking lot, killing pilot (Data | Registration)


    OSHKOSH COVERAGE

    RV Builder's Hotline will be providing coverage of AirVenture starting on Saturday. Updates will be provided via Twitter and also on the Letters from Flyover Country blog. A full RV Hotline will be issued on Saturday.

    We would like other RVers who have access to email, to email the things you find interesting at Oshkosh to rvnewsletter@comcast.net. Can you help?


    OTHER NEWS

    Flight to French Lick
    Dave Gamble probably thinks nobody's ever heard of French Lick. Don't tell that to a Boston Celtics fan. (PapaGolf Chronicles)

    Pix: Formations with Rick Gray
    The Ohio Valley RVator went for a little practice last weekend and provides some pictures.

    Shelter Cove Adventure
    Replacing a 4.5 hour drive with a 55 minute RV flight. (VAF)

    Fourth of July in Idaho back country
    How Scott Schmidt spent the holiday in his RV. (VAF)

    The intersection of speed and efficiency
    A coast-to-coast flight in an RV took 8 hrs and 58 min and used 25.8 gallons. (Lightspeed Engineering).

    Radar video/audio of F-16 encounter
    A close call with a GA aircraft (AOPA)

    Torque specs for aluminum fittings
    New on the Van's site. (h/t: VAF)

    Basic flight plan
    An Indiana newspaper looks at life at a small airport, with at least one RV. (Evansville Courier Press)

     
    BUILDER TIPS

    Filling empennage tips
    My technique is not original thinking, it is how layups like this are done on the original Europa and many other wet layup composite projects. Using 40 grit sandpaper rough up the inside edge of the fiberglass tip for about 1/2". make a 1/2" thick foam rib to fit in the tip opening. using a sanding block sand a 45 degree bevel around the outside edge of the foam rib. Epoxy the rib into the tip using five minute epoxy. when cured mix up some epoxy/flox and fill the trough around the edge of the rib that was left by sanding off the 45 degree edge. Cover the rib and flox with peelply and squeege it smooth. Since flox is structural we have created a nice bonding area around the edge of the foam rib. After the flox is cured layup a couple layers of 9 oz. glass on the foam rib. Don't worry about trying to wrap the glass around the edge of the tip just let it extend straight out. After it is cured sand it flush with the edge of the tip. Remember peelply is you friend, use it on all layups. Doing it this way you don't have to worry about removing the foam rib or doing any interior layups. (Steve Eberhart on Rivetbangers.com)
    Related thread:
    How much metal needed to bond to in canopy fairing? (VAF)

    How to drill out a rivet
    Drilling out a rivetRV builder Jack Dueck talks about how to remove a rivet in the latest Homebuilders Help video from EAA. Many people who try to drill out a rivet, by the way, forget an important point: put a blocking bar on the shop head before using a punch to drive out the rivet. Jack explains. (Watch video).



    Quickly removing the blue plastic film
    For many of us building Standard Kits there are a lot of large parts of sheet aluminum that need the blue protective film removed before installing on the current stage of construction. And for many of us those parts may have been on the shelf waiting for our attention for months or even years. As time passes the blue film seems to adhere even harder and becomes more difficult to remove quickly. I was recently working on my RV7 wings and began removing the plastic from the main wing skins, tank skins and leading edges. After spending too much time just to get to the bare aluminum using the fingertip curling the plastic method I told myself there has to be a better way. Below I have tried to show my method in pictures. I cut time removing the film from one side of a wing skin from 45 minutes down to 10 minutes for BOTH sides. (Assist Aviation Web site).

    VOR antenna mounting
    VOR antenna1On the RV List, Matt Dralle says, "I'm mounting a VOR antenna on the Vertical Fin and came up with this idea for installation. I'm thinking maybe adding a .063" plate underneath for added rigidity. Maybe another under the black antenna mount as well. Does this seem like a decent way to mount this? Other ideas? (Follow the thread)


    Revised canopy latch
    Canopy latchMy adjacent builder designed a different, perhaps more traditional, canopy latch handle for my RV7A. No skin slash. I will post a couple pictures that are self explanatory. The exterior handle was fabricated from bar stock and holds a tube that extends through the skin into the canopy latch bar. The interior handle was designed from an old, unused Aircraft Spruce throttle control after one handle was removed to thin it down. If fits nicely against the exterior skin where the slash would be, and wholly under the side rail. I skeletonized it a bit to reduce probably an ounce of metal and make it look a bit more finished. The handle is dark alodined to match the friction blocks in the orignal handle assembly. I put some shots of the arrangement in the photo section under CANOPYLATCH, if interested. (MikeC on RV Yahoogroup. Membership is required)

    RV-10 overhead console
    RV-10 overhead consoleI thought I would share some photos of my recently completed overhead console. I think it came out pretty good. I am still finishing it up and need to add nut plates to mount the vents, also need to add access plates etc. I used blue foam as a mold. I shaped the foam and then taped it on the top. I used tape around the edges to protect the cabin top. The fillet was done with spackling compound. I sanded the foam and spackling smooth and then covered with mold release wax. Yes it took some time but it was not difficult to do. So... it can be done without buying after market if desired - no special skills. (Chris Lucas on RV-10 List)

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